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		<title>By: Marlenus</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/10/score-another-barge-for-ironfleet/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I see, you&#039;re deliberately misreading what you see, in an effort to be offensive.  

Note (just by way of example) that I did not pay for the implants until after hostilities had ceased.  You comprehended that -- hence your use of the word &quot;formally&quot; -- but you deliberately ignored it in order to craft the insult.

It&#039;s a strange business, setting out to insult a total stranger whose blog you stumbled on by accident.  I wonder what might have motivated you to do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I see, you&#8217;re deliberately misreading what you see, in an effort to be offensive.  </p>
<p>Note (just by way of example) that I did not pay for the implants until after hostilities had ceased.  You comprehended that &#8212; hence your use of the word &#8220;formally&#8221; &#8212; but you deliberately ignored it in order to craft the insult.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a strange business, setting out to insult a total stranger whose blog you stumbled on by accident.  I wonder what might have motivated you to do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Don Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/10/score-another-barge-for-ironfleet/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My interest is passing. I was looking for the website of another corp, stumbled upon this one and stayed for a read. 

As for where in your story did you suggest anyone was afk, I got that impression in the first paragraph of your diatribe:

&quot;So, I was on my way back to Isaziwa from a system where a lot of AC-ME folk were (AFK) last night, when I stumbled upon poor Aktala (again) mining alone in a Retriever mining barge in Oiniken.&quot;

In fact, none of what you post makes a lot of sense. You contradict yourself all over the place: the example above; in your reply you say that the other alliance (you&#039;re all other alliances to me seeing as I&#039;m not in any of the groups you&#039;ve mentioned) is at fault for the war, then say that you started the war in the first place.

The kicker is that in your reply you say that the Indy alliance &quot;for allowing one of their members to get them into a war and for taking no steps (that I am aware of) to try and end it.&quot;

Reading today&#039;s post and the one entitled Back-channel diplomacy, it seems that you knew full well that the other alliance was engaged in diplomatic activity with you. You also say that you had come to a very tentative no-podding agreement with them, hardly the acts of an alliance trying to perpetuate a war.

Of course, the last sentence in your reply might lead a neutral observer to draw some rather interesting comclusions about your intellect. You say that paying for replacing lost tonnage is a stupid thing to do in wartime, yet the latest post on your blog says that you&#039;ve ponied up for some implants for the person you podded while still formally under a wardec.

It&#039;s a shame I&#039;m not over in Caldari space at the moment, I&#039;d like to have tangled with your fleet to see what happened for myself, then compare that reality with what you publish here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My interest is passing. I was looking for the website of another corp, stumbled upon this one and stayed for a read. </p>
<p>As for where in your story did you suggest anyone was afk, I got that impression in the first paragraph of your diatribe:</p>
<p>&#8220;So, I was on my way back to Isaziwa from a system where a lot of AC-ME folk were (AFK) last night, when I stumbled upon poor Aktala (again) mining alone in a Retriever mining barge in Oiniken.&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, none of what you post makes a lot of sense. You contradict yourself all over the place: the example above; in your reply you say that the other alliance (you&#8217;re all other alliances to me seeing as I&#8217;m not in any of the groups you&#8217;ve mentioned) is at fault for the war, then say that you started the war in the first place.</p>
<p>The kicker is that in your reply you say that the Indy alliance &#8220;for allowing one of their members to get them into a war and for taking no steps (that I am aware of) to try and end it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reading today&#8217;s post and the one entitled Back-channel diplomacy, it seems that you knew full well that the other alliance was engaged in diplomatic activity with you. You also say that you had come to a very tentative no-podding agreement with them, hardly the acts of an alliance trying to perpetuate a war.</p>
<p>Of course, the last sentence in your reply might lead a neutral observer to draw some rather interesting comclusions about your intellect. You say that paying for replacing lost tonnage is a stupid thing to do in wartime, yet the latest post on your blog says that you&#8217;ve ponied up for some implants for the person you podded while still formally under a wardec.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame I&#8217;m not over in Caldari space at the moment, I&#8217;d like to have tangled with your fleet to see what happened for myself, then compare that reality with what you publish here.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlenus</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/10/score-another-barge-for-ironfleet/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, and what is your interest, Don Brandon?  You seem to be rather deliberately misreading my account.  If that&#039;s what you call &quot;getting things straight&quot; I&#039;d hate to see the carnage when you get things confused.

Where in this story did I suggest anyone was AFK?  A mining barge pilot typically has to be at the keyboard to transfer ore to the jet-can.

It was yesterday&#039;s hauler-miner I would have thought was AFK, but their pod warped away promptly.

The fact that I launched on Aktala&#039;s barge is, indeed partially the fault of HER alliance (not &quot;some other alliance&quot; as you say), for allowing one of their members to get them into a war and for taking no steps (that I am aware of) to try and end it.  But of course, I declared the war -- I&#039;m hardly an innocent party either.   

What I meant to suggest was that if I were a member of an alliance, and got blown up TWICE in a war that my alliance leadership could easily have made stop, I&#039;d be a little bit pissed at my alliance leadership (while still being a lot pissed at the aggressor).

The pod is a different story.  I never said anything about the pod destruction being anybody&#039;s fault but my own. I fat-fingered the interface.  Is there anybody who hasn&#039;t?  I&#039;ve apologized for that, but I&#039;m hardly going to pay reparations -- this war is one-sided enough without that.  In war, things go wrong, it&#039;s pretty inevitable.  Don&#039;t like it, make it stop.

Paying for your enemy&#039;s lost tonnage is just a stupid thing to do in wartime, no matter the circumstances under which it got blown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, and what is your interest, Don Brandon?  You seem to be rather deliberately misreading my account.  If that&#8217;s what you call &#8220;getting things straight&#8221; I&#8217;d hate to see the carnage when you get things confused.</p>
<p>Where in this story did I suggest anyone was AFK?  A mining barge pilot typically has to be at the keyboard to transfer ore to the jet-can.</p>
<p>It was yesterday&#8217;s hauler-miner I would have thought was AFK, but their pod warped away promptly.</p>
<p>The fact that I launched on Aktala&#8217;s barge is, indeed partially the fault of HER alliance (not &#8220;some other alliance&#8221; as you say), for allowing one of their members to get them into a war and for taking no steps (that I am aware of) to try and end it.  But of course, I declared the war &#8212; I&#8217;m hardly an innocent party either.   </p>
<p>What I meant to suggest was that if I were a member of an alliance, and got blown up TWICE in a war that my alliance leadership could easily have made stop, I&#8217;d be a little bit pissed at my alliance leadership (while still being a lot pissed at the aggressor).</p>
<p>The pod is a different story.  I never said anything about the pod destruction being anybody&#8217;s fault but my own. I fat-fingered the interface.  Is there anybody who hasn&#8217;t?  I&#8217;ve apologized for that, but I&#8217;m hardly going to pay reparations &#8212; this war is one-sided enough without that.  In war, things go wrong, it&#8217;s pretty inevitable.  Don&#8217;t like it, make it stop.</p>
<p>Paying for your enemy&#8217;s lost tonnage is just a stupid thing to do in wartime, no matter the circumstances under which it got blown.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/10/score-another-barge-for-ironfleet/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So lemme get this straight - you launched on a pod of someone you knew was AFK, but this was all the fault of some other alliance? 

I would have thought that if you really were sorry, you&#039;d pony up for the cost of the destroyed items as a sign of good faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So lemme get this straight &#8211; you launched on a pod of someone you knew was AFK, but this was all the fault of some other alliance? </p>
<p>I would have thought that if you really were sorry, you&#8217;d pony up for the cost of the destroyed items as a sign of good faith.</p>
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