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	<title>Comments on: Nuisance War, Or Revenge Of The Bride Of Chebri?</title>
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		<title>By: anon.</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/13/nuisance-war-or-revenge-of-the-bride-of-chebri/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in a totally unrelated note. It made news once, Stephen Harper eats babies 8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in a totally unrelated note. It made news once, Stephen Harper eats babies 8)</p>
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		<title>By: Marlenus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ad Hominem&quot; is Latin for &quot;against the man&quot; and it means an argument  that is meritless &lt;b&gt;because&lt;/b&gt; it is &quot;against the person&quot; rather than engaging with their arguments.  In other words, saying &quot;you can&#039;t believe what X says because X likes to eat babies&quot; is an ad hominem and meritless argument -- meritless because it doesn&#039;t have anything to do with what X actually said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ad Hominem&#8221; is Latin for &#8220;against the man&#8221; and it means an argument  that is meritless <b>because</b> it is &#8220;against the person&#8221; rather than engaging with their arguments.  In other words, saying &#8220;you can&#8217;t believe what X says because X likes to eat babies&#8221; is an ad hominem and meritless argument &#8212; meritless because it doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with what X actually said.</p>
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		<title>By: anon.</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding of ad hom is an attack without merit? From some of madness&#039; previous posts I personally thought it had some merit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of ad hom is an attack without merit? From some of madness&#8217; previous posts I personally thought it had some merit</p>
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		<title>By: Marlenus</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/13/nuisance-war-or-revenge-of-the-bride-of-chebri/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Anon, it&#039;s hard to get &quot;tone&quot; on the internet and your &quot;why don&#039;t we do it in Eve&quot; sounded to me like an old &quot;why don&#039;t we step outside and settle this with our fists?&quot; challenge.  It&#039;s been my experience (as a wordy bastard) that in Eve a lot of folks who aren&#039;t happy with the way a conversation is going for them want to &quot;continue the conversation with blasters&quot; and I thought that&#039;s where you were trying to go with Madness.

I&#039;d agree that you&#039;ve remained fairly neutral in these comments, even made some comments that are helpful if they prove true and sincere.  And that&#039;s not like Chebri.  

I &lt;b&gt;am&lt;/b&gt; entertained that speculating on whether somebody might be associated with Chebri is considered an ad hominem attack -- that&#039;s kinda sad for her.

But in a polite effort to point out why the subject keeps coming up, your last comment reads like classic Chebri in one significant fashion.  She&#039;s most notorious (at Ironfleet) for making nasty denunciations of behavior that she also enjoys -- one of our first exchanges involved her &lt;b&gt;RUDELY&lt;/b&gt; denouncing Ironfleet&#039;s salvage activities on the grounds that it was &lt;b&gt;rude&lt;/b&gt; of us.  Now here&#039;s you, making a slam at Madness (a funny slam, but still a slam accusing him of being an overzealous fan of Ironfleet) and then in the next breath, hoping we&#039;ll all refrain from ad hominem attacks.  

It&#039;s a Chebri pattern.  Of course she doesn&#039;t own it, but you&#039;ll understand if we continue to maintain an open mind for the time being?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Anon, it&#8217;s hard to get &#8220;tone&#8221; on the internet and your &#8220;why don&#8217;t we do it in Eve&#8221; sounded to me like an old &#8220;why don&#8217;t we step outside and settle this with our fists?&#8221; challenge.  It&#8217;s been my experience (as a wordy bastard) that in Eve a lot of folks who aren&#8217;t happy with the way a conversation is going for them want to &#8220;continue the conversation with blasters&#8221; and I thought that&#8217;s where you were trying to go with Madness.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree that you&#8217;ve remained fairly neutral in these comments, even made some comments that are helpful if they prove true and sincere.  And that&#8217;s not like Chebri.  </p>
<p>I <b>am</b> entertained that speculating on whether somebody might be associated with Chebri is considered an ad hominem attack &#8212; that&#8217;s kinda sad for her.</p>
<p>But in a polite effort to point out why the subject keeps coming up, your last comment reads like classic Chebri in one significant fashion.  She&#8217;s most notorious (at Ironfleet) for making nasty denunciations of behavior that she also enjoys &#8212; one of our first exchanges involved her <b>RUDELY</b> denouncing Ironfleet&#8217;s salvage activities on the grounds that it was <b>rude</b> of us.  Now here&#8217;s you, making a slam at Madness (a funny slam, but still a slam accusing him of being an overzealous fan of Ironfleet) and then in the next breath, hoping we&#8217;ll all refrain from ad hominem attacks.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a Chebri pattern.  Of course she doesn&#8217;t own it, but you&#8217;ll understand if we continue to maintain an open mind for the time being?</p>
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		<title>By: anon.</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/13/nuisance-war-or-revenge-of-the-bride-of-chebri/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duel? Nah.

Personally I was thinking a convo in game. Far easier to debate/argue points back and forth in real time. Don&#039;t know how well it would go, considering we&#039;ve already managed to degenerate to this from &#039;anon person is probably chebri&#039;

I&#039;d like think I&#039;ve remained neutral (though I will acknowledge that what I think and what is the case are often two different things), MADNESS seems to have found the giant foam-finger store, and gotten one made up for IRON.

I&#039;d like to think that we can all avoid any ad hom attacks (yes I looked that up, no I&#039;m not sure if i used it right)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duel? Nah.</p>
<p>Personally I was thinking a convo in game. Far easier to debate/argue points back and forth in real time. Don&#8217;t know how well it would go, considering we&#8217;ve already managed to degenerate to this from &#8216;anon person is probably chebri&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like think I&#8217;ve remained neutral (though I will acknowledge that what I think and what is the case are often two different things), MADNESS seems to have found the giant foam-finger store, and gotten one made up for IRON.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that we can all avoid any ad hom attacks (yes I looked that up, no I&#8217;m not sure if i used it right)</p>
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		<title>By: Marlenus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naw, you do seem to have a lot in common with Chebri, but until you get obnoxious the way she did, I&#039;ll keep passing your comments out of moderation.

You&#039;d have more credibility if you dropped the anonymous schtick, though.  I do think it&#039;s pretty funny watching one anonymous person challenge another anonymous person to a spaceship duel -- how exactly would you go about setting that up?

Don&#039;t have any new stuff to blog, Ducky has been a no-show so far and I haven&#039;t had any new adventures otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naw, you do seem to have a lot in common with Chebri, but until you get obnoxious the way she did, I&#8217;ll keep passing your comments out of moderation.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d have more credibility if you dropped the anonymous schtick, though.  I do think it&#8217;s pretty funny watching one anonymous person challenge another anonymous person to a spaceship duel &#8212; how exactly would you go about setting that up?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t have any new stuff to blog, Ducky has been a no-show so far and I haven&#8217;t had any new adventures otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: anon.</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/13/nuisance-war-or-revenge-of-the-bride-of-chebri/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh

glove down. I&#039;m just waiting for a new blog, response (or maybe ban-hammer for me? :O) from marlenus ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh</p>
<p>glove down. I&#8217;m just waiting for a new blog, response (or maybe ban-hammer for me? :O) from marlenus ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: MADNESS</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/13/nuisance-war-or-revenge-of-the-bride-of-chebri/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>MADNESS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMFAO ! ! ! ! Imagin that. Quick to anger, Sounds like a Chebri Trait. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMFAO ! ! ! ! Imagin that. Quick to anger, Sounds like a Chebri Trait. :P</p>
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		<title>By: anon.</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/13/nuisance-war-or-revenge-of-the-bride-of-chebri/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you want to debate who ducky is irl and what my motives are?

I&#039;ll be more than happy to do it in eve, on my main.

why don&#039;t we set something up :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you want to debate who ducky is irl and what my motives are?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be more than happy to do it in eve, on my main.</p>
<p>why don&#8217;t we set something up :)</p>
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		<title>By: MADNESS</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/01/13/nuisance-war-or-revenge-of-the-bride-of-chebri/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>MADNESS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tisk...tisk, Sounds like i&#039;ve hit a nerve, and you&#039;re reply ( spoken like a true Chebri Finatic )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tisk&#8230;tisk, Sounds like i&#8217;ve hit a nerve, and you&#8217;re reply ( spoken like a true Chebri Finatic )</p>
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