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	<title>Comments on: Complaining Up The Chain Of Command</title>
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		<title>By: Eidelon</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/05/19/complaining-up-the-chain-of-command/#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>Eidelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 06:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laughed a lot at this post. 

Excellent work. Keep it up!

Eid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laughed a lot at this post. </p>
<p>Excellent work. Keep it up!</p>
<p>Eid.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlenus</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/05/19/complaining-up-the-chain-of-command/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, and the most fun of all -- scooping &quot;secure&quot; cans that have not been anchored is crime-free.  The owner can do nothing but shake his fist in impotent fury, and impugn your ancestry in local.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, and the most fun of all &#8212; scooping &#8220;secure&#8221; cans that have not been anchored is crime-free.  The owner can do nothing but shake his fist in impotent fury, and impugn your ancestry in local.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlenus</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/05/19/complaining-up-the-chain-of-command/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, MBP.

The short version is -- no sec status or faction hits, and no Concord, ever, for looting or salvaging anything.

No agro -- no players allowed to shoot you -- for activating a salvage mod.  Ever.

If you remove loot items from a wreck or can that does not belong to you, there will never be a Concord response.  But the owner of the wreck (and that gets complex as to who it is, sometimes) can shoot at you.  As can members of his player corp at least (I&#039;m not 100% sure about all of the tricky details of gangs, alliances, and so forth).

Of course, once somebody shoots at you, you can shoot back at them.

The details get rather frayed at the edges once the scrimmage is on.  But the simple things are simple.  Salvage freely, expect to get shot at if you loot, don&#039;t worry about Concord unless you shoot at somebody who isn&#039;t already flashing red at you.  Don&#039;t ever worry about faction or security status, they don&#039;t apply here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, MBP.</p>
<p>The short version is &#8212; no sec status or faction hits, and no Concord, ever, for looting or salvaging anything.</p>
<p>No agro &#8212; no players allowed to shoot you &#8212; for activating a salvage mod.  Ever.</p>
<p>If you remove loot items from a wreck or can that does not belong to you, there will never be a Concord response.  But the owner of the wreck (and that gets complex as to who it is, sometimes) can shoot at you.  As can members of his player corp at least (I&#8217;m not 100% sure about all of the tricky details of gangs, alliances, and so forth).</p>
<p>Of course, once somebody shoots at you, you can shoot back at them.</p>
<p>The details get rather frayed at the edges once the scrimmage is on.  But the simple things are simple.  Salvage freely, expect to get shot at if you loot, don&#8217;t worry about Concord unless you shoot at somebody who isn&#8217;t already flashing red at you.  Don&#8217;t ever worry about faction or security status, they don&#8217;t apply here.</p>
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		<title>By: LOL!</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/05/19/complaining-up-the-chain-of-command/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>LOL!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG THE LOL!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG THE LOL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mbp</title>
		<link>http://www.ironfleet.com/2008/05/19/complaining-up-the-chain-of-command/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>mbp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 11:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol indeed. It wouldn&#039;t be half so funny if the guy hadn&#039;t come across so reasonably for his first few posts.

Nice blog by the way - I found it by following the link from your thread comments. 

Question from an EVE newbie about your towing and salvage operations: What are the security  implications of picking up stuff that is tagged to other players. Does it give you a security hit? Will Concord squash you if you do it in high sec? I assume at very least the offended party gets an aggression timer on you for a few minutes. Does salvaging other folks wrecks apply the same rules?

Oops - I guess I am asking too many dumb questions. Feel free to ignore them. Its just that I see all these tempting looking cans sitting out in space (often in high sec systems). So far I have not given in to temptation because I assume that the can owner is sitting behind an asteroid waiting to pop out and blast me but .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol indeed. It wouldn&#8217;t be half so funny if the guy hadn&#8217;t come across so reasonably for his first few posts.</p>
<p>Nice blog by the way &#8211; I found it by following the link from your thread comments. </p>
<p>Question from an EVE newbie about your towing and salvage operations: What are the security  implications of picking up stuff that is tagged to other players. Does it give you a security hit? Will Concord squash you if you do it in high sec? I assume at very least the offended party gets an aggression timer on you for a few minutes. Does salvaging other folks wrecks apply the same rules?</p>
<p>Oops &#8211; I guess I am asking too many dumb questions. Feel free to ignore them. Its just that I see all these tempting looking cans sitting out in space (often in high sec systems). So far I have not given in to temptation because I assume that the can owner is sitting behind an asteroid waiting to pop out and blast me but &#8230;..</p>
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