Comments on: Anti-Salvager Whine Smackdown

By: wauke

wauke — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:58:30 +0000

Of course I’m talking about salvaging my own missions, not other people’s… which sortof misses the point on this site, heh.

By: wauke

wauke — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:56:57 +0000

If they give the mission rats the sleeper AI, that would cause a ton of problems for “salvagers” to be sure.

As for actually salvaging, I typically do it as I go through the mission, but it depends on how much I care about the rats that are still alive. If they hurt, I’ll deal with them first, if not, I’ll deal with them as they get into range, and salvage along the way.

By: Marlenus

Marlenus — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:47:47 +0000

Personally I do most of my mission salvaging when the missioner is not present, because I often like to collect the loot as well. When the missioner and rats are present, I don’t see there being a big difference if the rats were using the “Sleeper” rules — because, even now, you have to stay alert for agro if the missioner decides to warp out.

That said, I can’t see CCP ever putting the new AI in existing missions, the redesign work wouldn’t be worth it. They might put ‘em in newly designed missions, though, so the question is certainly pertinent.

By: Orontes Ovasi

Orontes Ovasi — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:19:42 +0000

If, and this is a big if, mission rats ever get the “new AI” of sleepers, where they will switch aggro randomly, or to “more vulnerable” targets, will that impact mission salvaging, or do you do most of it after the mission is over? Actually curious, not trying to troll. Feel free to ignore since I’m basically hijacking the thread

By: Marlenus

Marlenus — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:54 +0000

Actually these threads start three or four times a week, and they’ve never been locked before. That’s what made Mitnal’s response to this one so refreshing and novel.

They are usually full of angry ranting.

By: Lei Merdeau

Lei Merdeau — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:13:01 +0000

and again http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1029519
this one actually started earlier and isn’t locked, because it stayed civil?

By: Marlenus

Marlenus — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:52:09 +0000

The other thing, of course, is that CCP along with pretty much everybody else thinks that the level four missions are not very well in line with the usual balance of risk and reward; they don’t want to nerf missions too hard (for various plausible business reasons) but I don’t think they are sympathetic to suggestions that are aimed at making missions safer, easier, and more profitable, as any anti-salvager change would.

By: Marlenus

Marlenus — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:50:10 +0000

Truly, I think it got locked for violating the “no rants” rule.

By: Casiella Truza

Casiella Truza — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:56:31 +0000

Suggesting a change should include something other than suggesting the SAME change that has been denied over and over.

If the OP had included something mildly useful (like maybe a new idea regarding the mechanic), then maybe it wouldn’t have gotten locked. :D

By: Michan Yu

Michan Yu — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:53:15 +0000

I like it when he says, we are allowed to suggest changes..

Albiet this statement above is true, as Kahega has rightly put, They are sick of hearing it and are not going to change their minds about it..

Good on ya CCP :)