So asks an anonymous person posing as an AC-ME diplomat.

As is clear from the various comments below, Ironfleet is currently in a state of war with AC-ME and their alliance (Independent Federation, short name INDY).

Ironfleet declared the war, after sending a diplomatic correspondence to AC-ME that went 48 hours unanswered. (Real life happens, no fault of AC-ME. But I felt it could not wait.)

Our grievance against AC-ME (who, truth be told, we still like rather a lot) is that they seem to be the driving force behind Chebri’s war. Accounts vary, and perhaps it’s not so. But Chebri herself has said that protecting AC-ME was her motive for launching this war, and AC-ME has been supporting the war and flying with her against me.

Whatever the history, I suspect that AC-ME has influence over Chebri’s actions, should it choose to exercise that influence.

Thus, our war aims are simple — to put pressure on AC-ME while avoiding undue losses. When Chebri’s war ends, I would expect to feel no further need to pursue AC-ME, the real party in interest in that war. Unless of course the war is going unexpectedly well for Ironfleet — but that’s not the way to bet. Putting it mildly.

In the first day of war AC-ME, there were no losses on either side, nor shots fired. However, it was not business as usual for the typically extensive AC-ME mining operations in Isaziwa. During the first few hours after the war went active, the relatively young mining characters were elsewhere or offline, and there were at times as many as eight fairly senior combat pilots observed in system from AC-ME and allied corporations. One Retriever mining barge was observed mining under the close escort of a battlecruiser, with the accompaniment of a third pilot in an interceptor when hauling ore to the station. Mining it may have been, but it looked pretty symbolic to me.

Updates as events warrant.

8 Responses to “Are We MAD?”

  1. Gulletsplitter says:

    You should have contacted the alliance over AC-ME directly. You did war dec it…not AC-ME only. But that’s water under the bridge. AC-ME probably could influence Chebri to some extent. Even INDY as a whole could chat with her. Right now it makes no sense….the war has been a non-event.

    Mining wasn’t symbolic….there weren’t any of the regular miners on to my knowledge. But then I don’t know AC-ME’s miners or their schedule.

    It’s all good though…the war will either escalate or fizzle.

  2. Marlenus says:

    Gulletsplitter, is there some game mechanic by which I could have war decced AC-ME without involving INDY? This was my first ever war declaration, and I was under the impression I had to dec the whole alliance. Tell me I made a noob mistake, and I’ll laugh with you.

    I did contact AC-ME with a polite request to get Chebri under control. The acting CEO of AC-ME did not respond within 48 hours, so I went ahead. Seems reasonable enough to me. Turns out he was not online (he says, and I believe him) but I didn’t know that at the time, and he was usually very prompt with correspondence.

    I am pretty amused that you claim I haven’t disrupted AC-ME’s mining operations while admitting you don’t know their schedule. I do know their activities intimately, as I’ve been flying in the same belts with them every day for weeks. Of course I haven’t been online as much as I’d like, but when I have been online, the normal activity has been entirely absent. Non-event the war may be in combat terms, but the disruption of normal mining behavior is substantial — frankly, better than I’d expected to accomplish.

  3. Chebri says:

    Marlenus you keep assuming things that are not true. My actions are my own. That’s why I have my own corp and I’m in no alliance. No one (and I do mean no one) tells me what to do in EVE. Not you, not AC-ME and not INDY.

    Your ‘accomplishments’ in your blog are complete fiction…things you wish actually happen in game. Have a tough time coping with reality do you?

  4. Marlenus says:

    Chebri, I am relying on your own words, and your own actions. No assumptions, just your own statements about your motives.

    For all that you speak of fiction, you’ve never pointed to a thing I’ve said that didn’t happen in game. You wail about fiction and lies, but you can’t seem to identify any.

    Anyway, your comments have grown boring, repetitive, and insulting. From now on, they’ll land in moderation. If you can comment without being insulting, your comments will be approved. If you want to point out lies, do it politely and specifically, and I’ll approve your comments. But no more empty insults. Get your own blog for that.

  5. Chebri says:

    “Our grievance against AC-ME (who, truth be told, we still like rather a lot) is that they seem to be the driving force behind Chebri’s war.”

    Assumption. Inacurate. Lie.


    An untruthful statement about a person, published in writing or through broadcast media, that injures the person’s reputation or standing in the community. Because libel is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. Libel is a form of defamation , as is slander (an untruthful statement that is spoken, but not published in writing or broadcast through the media).

  6. Chebri says:

    “But Chebri herself has said that protecting AC-ME was her motive for launching this war, and AC-ME has been supporting the war and flying with her against me.”

    I said I look out for miners – not just AC-ME.


  7. Marlenus says:

    “They seem to be” …

    That’s an impression. It’s my impression. It can be wrong, but it cannot be a lie if I believe it, which I do.

    I’m beginning to think you don’t actually know what the word “lie” means.

  8. Marlenus says:

    “I said I look out for miners, not just AC-ME.”

    True. You did say that. Only, what you actually said was “I’m just protecting the local miners.” And, at the time you said that, the overwhelming majority of local miners in Isaz on any given night were AC-ME and members of your former corp. (That’s my estimate and impression. it might be mistaken, but it is honest, so it cannot be a lie.)

    So my characterization of your statement, while not a precise quote and thus, perhaps, inaccurate as you say, was not a lie. It wasn’t even very inaccurate. Nor was there any intent to deceive anyone — a fundamental indicament of a lie, and one of which you appear entirely ignorant.

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